On 17/07/2014 15:08, manning bill wrote: > just a heads up. if any of my expired drafts show up that predate IETF copyright, expect a takedown notice. I hope you're aware that ISOC ceded its rights to the IETF Trust, so drafts carrying the ISOC copyright wording should belong to the IETF too. Brian > i am pretty sure you will get the same type of response from Joe Touch. > > > /bill > PO Box 12317 > Marina del Rey, CA 90295 > 310.322.8102 > > On 16July2014Wednesday, at 19:30, Dean Willis <dean.willis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Interesting, Warren. >>> >>> I used to use waterspring and still have an annoying bookmark that autocompletes when I start to type www.wat... >>> >>> At the time that waterspring was set up we didn't archive old versions of I-Ds and once an I-D had expired it disappeared (related issues, but separately annoying). That is no longer the case, so the (UI aside) the main residual value would be retrieving the archive of old I-Ds and I am not so sure how useful that is, but archivists and IPR lawyers might comment). >> Yes, actually I was just about to post a note calling for helping finding some list archives from 1996-2000 that appear to be mostly missing from the IETF site. >> >> The same thing applies to lots of old I-D. These can be critically useful in knocking out nuisance patents. We need them very, very much. >> >> — >> Dean >> >> > >