On 7/2/2014 11:15 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > expired it disappeared (related issues, but separately annoying). That is no longer the case, so the (UI aside) the main residual value would be retrieving the archive of old I-Ds and I am not so sure how useful that is, but archivists and IPR lawyers might comment). hmmm. I was always told that the IETF actually did retain all the original I-Ds. So what changed was making it easier to get at them. Methinks the problem is that the older ones -- pre-easy access -- were never transitioned to the new access model? That is, I suspect they are sitting somewhere in an obscure archive that we haven't integrated in. As for the UI, is it worth considering for the IETF to adopt on its web site? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net