> "because we blew it way back when, by designing a completely insecure > and un-private internet" > That was not a mistake. That is what made adoption possible. this is not clear. though, certainly, crypto would have had serious performance impact in the ealy '80s. then again, if at 9600 baud, you can afford a bit of processing on the ends. :) > DTN started with security from the get-go, and DTN has gone nowhere. i was not aware that security was a major cause of the lack of success of the dtn. randy