Dave, you continue to lump together willful harassment and bullying with behavior that has unintended effects. You even use the words willful and intent in your draft. A "misbehavior" (your word) is not necessarily malicious. If it was we would have a lot of evil two-year-olds in the world.
You can take cases of true bullying to a public court of justice, but there will be a long period of training in the IETF where most issues that arise are due either to simple ignorance or lack of communication skills. Think about this crowd, and what percent of them act with malicious intent. This is also what Stewart tried to say to you the other day, that you apparently didn't understand. What I said about ombudsperson is straight from ombudsperson training.
On 3/17/2014 5:06 PM, Scott Brim wrote:
An ombudsperson tries not to bring a situation to "justice" or any other
public exposure (to start with), and from what I've seen most cases can
be worked out without. Are you getting advice from professionals on how
to structure this?
The pressures towards keeping things private are quite strong and understandable.
The conflicting requirement is to ensure a public sense that harassment and bullying will not be tolerated.
To the extent that public mis-behaviors are not seen to be countered aggressively, the public perception therefore is one of tolerance.
This is issue is especially important when changing from a culture that actively tolerated or encouraged the problematic behavior.
So... how will the IETF community come to understand that the behaviors will not be tolerated (any longer)?
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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