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On 3/8/14, 9:07 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Henrik,
I find the new archive highly inconvenient for reviewing a thread
or a chronological sequence on a given list. This can be done
at glance with the old archives with one line per message. With
the new one, it's matter of figuring what filter to set up. I have
found it *much* harder to find a particular thread than with the
old archive.
Please consider providing a subject-threaded and a topic-threaded
view of a single list into the new archive. We definitely need
a view equivalent to this one for every list:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/maillist.html
A generalised search tool does not provide the same convenience.
Also it would be handy to have a way to download a raw archive.
In the new tool, you should also be able to select all messages (or the
results of any search) and export them into mbox or maildir formats.
The export button is in the upper right corner.
RjS
Regards
Brian
On 09/03/2014 03:44, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
Hi Björn, Dale,
On 2014-03-07 23:02 Bjoern Hoehrmann said the following:
* Dale R. Worley wrote:
I've noticed that recently messages to the Ietf mailing list have been
sprouting "Archived-At" headers. This seems to be a great
convenience. But when I attempted to use one of these links,
http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/rvA1yLD7Ds2BAxWYv3iN1ONAxJs
it turned out not to be what I expected -- it contained the message,
but none of the threading that I've learned to love in IETF mail
archives.
Right. However, updating the single-message view is on the to-do list.
Which is all rather odd, since there *is* a URL that goes to the
"real" archive, and does give access to the threading:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg86465.html
Why is that URL not put into the Archived-At header?
2 reasons:
* That URL goes to the old archives, not to the new archives
at mailarchive.ietf.org. We're aiming at phasing out the old
archives once it's been established that the new service is
solid.
* That url will break if for some reason the archive pages have to
be re-generated due to later inclusion of list messages which didn't
originally make it into the archive for one reason or another. It's
happened a few times, and the way MHonArc generates the web pages
guarantees breakage if a dropped message has to be added. This is not
the case with the current Archived-At headers, which use a hash generated
by hashing Message-ID and list acronym, and is independent of any particular
sequence or ordering of messages in the list archive.
Though to put the shoe on the other foot, I notice that the *former*
archive will show me the full headers of the message if I want, but
the latter archive won't.
Yes. The latter (the old MHonArc archive) only includes some selected
headers in what's made available in the web page; one of many deficiencies
the new archive software aim to fix.
I assume there are some technical reasons, Henrik Levkowetz (copied)
might be able to comment.
I hope the information above helps.
Best regards,
Henrik