--On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 13:56 -0500 Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Barry, can you add a little more clarity on this point, >> please? Does your decision mean that we shall not ever >> normatively reference CBOR in future protocols? > > It does not mean that. CBOR does remain as a Proposed > Standard. This is about process, and the key point is here: Barry, Purely as a process clarification (I don't care enough one way or the other, but I haven't been involved in JSON work), is it correct that, if someone wanted the state that Joe asked about (i.e., no normative references to CBOR), they would need to take one of the following three steps: (1) Appeal your just-announced decision, asking that the document be reclassified to Experimental, Informational, or, I suppose, Historic? (2) Generate an I-D specifying one of the above four results and the reasons for it and try to get that I-D approved. (3) Generate an I-D for an Applicability Statement that would identify CBOR as "not recommended" and try to get it approved. While that would not prevent a normative reference requiring CBOR use, it would certainly touch off an interesting discussion should anyone try to do it. In either the second or third cases, the parties involved could either try to get the I-D through the process as an individual submission or could try to get some relevant WG, presumably (but not required to be) JSON, to take it into their work program[me]. Does that correctly summarize the process alternatives? john