----- Original Message ----- From: "S Moonesamy" <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Andrew Sullivan" <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:34 AM <snip> > I agree that the metaphors are part of the expressive power of > language and I agree with what is written above. > > The origin of the phrase is from Mike O'Dell and it was written as follows: > > "Increase the light and reduce the heat." > > Mike O'Dell changed that to: > > "Reduce the heat and increase the light." > > I did a quick search of the phrase as used in the IETF. There were > 241 results. 11 of those results were from messages posted to IETF > mailing lists. Four persons commented about that text (I am ignoring > my comments). My reading of the opinions expressed is that they > leaned towards having that text in the document. > > I'll leave this open until 7 January, 2014 so that other persons have > the opportunity to express their opinions. I have not a clue what that expression means; I have never seen it before anywhere that I can recall (speaking my one and only language, English). Is it Quebecois, Canadian, American, IETFian... ? I do not know and cannot imagine it conveying anything to someone who is new to the IETF and is not a native English speaker! Tom Petch > Regards, > S. Moonesamy > >