On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:45:09PM +0000, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Yes, we could count your corporate mail scanning example as > something that fits the definition but also fits under the > "tension" statement and live with that. I think that's quite > tenable. Ok. I wonder whether text along this line in the last paragraph at of section 1 would make it clear enough: …might consider them to be. For the same reason, a given feature of a protocol can often be used both to enable behaviours desired by users of the protocol, and to enable pervasive monitoring. Moreover, as technology advances … > But even if you think both of the above approaches are wrong, > I don't think consent is the angle to take here for the reasons > stated. Well, if you just say "this is part of that tension" then you don't need to give a general-purpose profile of that tension, I guess. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx