>http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/12/09/tech-giants-band-together-for-nsa-r >eform/ >the irony of corporations that are profiting from pervasive monitoring - >that's how Facebook and Google work - complaining >about government pervasive monitoring is not lost on me. And -- irony number two -- no amount of encryption will protect you from the monitoring by these corporations. And nor, by extension, those they are obliged (legally or otherwise) to cooperate with. >What I don't feel good about is perpass-attack, which is going to >be at best ignored, or wildly misinterpreted and misused by its intended >audience. It's primarily a kneejerk reaction to news events +1 (That doesn't necessarily make it a futile exercise, if it also happens to improves security in ways consistent with the general threat environment, which I believe it does. But in this specific case that includes adversaries that render discussion of technical measures largely irrelevant by virtue of their influence on the marketplace, so...) Josh. Janet(UK) is a trading name of Jisc Collections and Janet Limited, a not-for-profit company which is registered in England under No. 2881024 and whose Registered Office is at Lumen House, Library Avenue, Harwell Oxford, Didcot, Oxfordshire. OX11 0SG. VAT No. 614944238