On 11/18/13 6:18 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > I believe that you mean ARMD - which led to the creation of a WG > which was concluded - see http://tools.ietf.org/wg/armd/ The "cloud" effort was pretty misguided and for the most part took the form of a fishing expedition to try to figure out whether or not there was anything there to work on. It was far too top-down and heavily orchestrated to be successful in the IETF, and so it wasn't. It did, however, lead to a flood of data center-related drafts in the ops area, a few of which were interesting. The data center stuff has now dispersed into more appropriate areas/working groups. But that's the "cloud"history - can't speak to the other two topics. Melinda