>> OGF, as I recall, started a group of high-energy physics people who wanted >> computing, but felt that the IETF didn't need to participate. I recall they >> came to a meeting and basically said, "do you mind if we use RFC2026 and your >> formats in another body", and they went and did that. Not quite right. Firstly, OGF was formed by the the merger of GGF (Global Grid Forum) which was always a technical organisation and OGA (Open Grid Alliance) which was mainly a marketing organisation. GGF was not started by high-energy physicists, but it did grow out of Big Science requirements for distributed data handling and computing. Several suites of grid computing software appeared from the Big Science community and one of them became the LHC Computing Grid, which is where the high-energy physicists came in. GGF did model its procedures to a considerable extent, but not entirely, on the IETF. There were overlapping people, including me. The point is that real operational software suites and real computing grids came out of GGF/OGF and associated activities. And they are trying to do the same for clouds. They have published an "Open Cloud Computing Interface (OCCI) Specification" recently: http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.183.pdf http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.184.pdf http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.185.pdf Brian