Sent from my iPad > On 6 nov. 2013, at 21:48, "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 07/11/2013 15:58, Randy Bush wrote: >>> You’re entitled to your opinion, but I entirely disagree. I thought each >>> of those made an important point and highlighted some areas where consensus >>> is broadly held. I appreciated Russ’ composition of the issues and think >>> he deserves our thanks. >> >> the feeling of those present was pretty clear. i am sure folk with too >> much free time on their hands will wrap themselves around process >> epicycles 'til the cows come home. there is a massive amount of work to >> do. let us focus on that. > > Plus several. > > Obviously the hums were not aimed at deciding any engineering questions > in need of great precision. They were aimed at getting a sense of the room > on some general principles. As with the two previous occasions I mentioned, > if we want to write them up, there needs to be a draft and a consensus-forming > process. That would be a fine background activity. Meanwhile, I hope progress > on doing the actual work continues in the foreground. Hmm, I am with Dave here. Whereas I agree on the principles and was thus ready to hum along I had in fact a hard time humming on them because I kind of felt dragged into an applause machine, which provokes some automatic sense of rebellion in me. I think the topic at hand is too important to turn into a political correct propaganda machine, it is not fair to cast doubts about the way this was casted as 'process epicycles'. Klaas > > Brian >