Re: Last Call: <draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis-03.txt> (IETF Guidelines for Conduct) to Best Current Practice

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SM,

I do not think it is a call for the shepherd to decide to add it or not, but to us as a group.

Also, I do not see why included the text or not will stop somebody to sued the IETF, but I am not a lawyer.

And, as recent events of discussions about harassment, I am firmly believe that this issue has to be addressed in the draft, if not as a whole policy at least to mention that any type of harassment (sexual, racial, etc.) should not be done.

/as 


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Arturo,

At 14:23 06-11-2013, Arturo Servin wrote:
I notice that there are not mention of forbidding any kind of harassment in your draft (or may be I oversight it). Perhaps this could be a good place to introduce the anti-harassment policy and to get consensus on it.

The lack of any mention of harassment is intentional.  Harassment is a serious matter.  It is much more than about transgressing the guidelines for conduct.  In theory someone might be able to take legal action against the IETF or the person responsible.  In simple terms the IETF guidelines for conduct is to "play nice".

In my personal opinion it would be better not to discuss about harassment in the draft.  I am open to adding text if the document shepherd recommends it.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy


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