Re: CHANGE THE JOB (was Re: NOMCOM - Time-Critical - Final Call for Nominations)

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On 19/10/2013 04:33, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>> I have asked you and other ADs several times if Assistant ADs would help.
>> The answer I got was "not really, but a well run directorate really helps.".
> 
> OK. Doesn't sound like refusing to consider. Sounds like answering your
> question.
> 
> So let's take it to the next step because it may be that the current IESG cannot
> conceive of how an assistant AD would work.
> 
> Can you put up a strawman of the job tasks of an assistant AD that we can work
> with to discuss whether this has legs? 

This was discussed quite a bit within the IESG in ~2005 and there was some
discussion of Assistant Area Managers in ~2003. In practice, the result
was the strengthening of various directorates and review teams.

> Would assistant ADs be appointed and work for sitting ADs, or would they be
> NomCom appointments?

Definitely not NomCom, for a whole raft of reasons.

> Can't an AD already delegate anything they want (except the responsibility)?

Yes. Just try to find a willing assistant. We'll be looking in the same
pool as we do for WG Chairs and ADs, so it can't just be a matter of
delegating scut work.

>> Why not double the number of ADs in each area and instead of
>> every AD reviewing every draft, have 2 ADs from each area
>> review each draft? (Cut the AD hours in half somehow)
> 
> There is mileage in that. 

I don't think so. Adding ADs was another approach we discussed
in the 2005/7 timeframe. The problem is that it's hard enough to keep
a 15 member IESG cohesive. I can't imagine how a 29 member IESG
would "steer" anything. Frankly, I think you'd get squabbling.
(As Scott Brim said, we need a strategy. You won't get that from a
group of 29 people.)

> I don't think every AD reviews every document. Some
> pairs of ADs consciously split the load. Some ADs don't do detailed reviews of
> documents in other areas or just focus on specific topics.
> 
> But we must get off the idea that document review is the whole of the AD load. I
> think it is only around 15-20%. Maybe that rises with pursuit of Discusses
> (moral: don't raise Discusses). That doesn't mean that other parts of the load
> couldn't be shifted.

Reviewing *in itself* may or may not be the dominant load, but it
generates other work, such as arbitration between the reviewing AD
and the authors - which is definitely not always undertaken by the
shepherd. That's why pushing reviewing back to the WG would tend to
reduce the IESG's overall workload (IMNSHO).

I rather like Brian Trammell's suggestion to formalise the reviewer
role more and to improve the tools. If I was an AD today, I'd be delighted
if the tracker pointed me to various reviews (and the author's
responses).

   Brian




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