----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> To: "IETF Discuss" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:20 PM > > On 10/17/2013 10:16 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > > Shrinking the IESG might make us think harder about what tasks really > > are absolutely necessary :-) > > FWIW, having thought a bit about this my conclusion was that > shrinking the IESG to the point where its not actually feasible > to do all that's asked/expected by ADs/the-IETF-generally > is the only way to get the AD role down to ~1 day a week > between IETF meetings. I also have no clue how we mght get > there from here;-) > > And as a factoid, for me, it was very much near full time > at first, but after a year was closer to 50-60% of my time > when nothing much special is going on, which is mostly, but > not always. However my hours-per-week are noticeably higher > than before being an AD, so it is more than 50-60% of my > pre-AD working week. So I do agree that changes that reduce > the load are very desirable if we could find a way to do > that. OTOH, I know a lot of other people who's hours per > week are growing thanks to be able to work outside of the > office so maybe that's a factor too. I like to solve a problem by first knowing what the problem is. Yes, ADs have too much to do, and I regularly include comments to the effect that ADs are the most valuable resource in the IETF, but where does the time go? To suggest what could be done, by myself and others, requires first an understanding of that. I recall a Canadian initiative of some 30 years ago, when I was given an egg timer and a sheet of paper (it's probably in the App store nowadays) and every time the timer went off, I reset it and wrote down what I was doing. At the end of a week, I had 70 samples of my activities and could build up a picture of what I was doing to benefit my employer (or myself), where I was frittering time away, where technology could improve my productivity and so on. So simple so effective. So where does an AD's time go? I need some concrete data, from whatever means is appropriate. Then I might be able to help. Tom Petch > > S. > >