> we need to keep the flexibility of bringing in someone new agree > But my main issue is that the draft sounds like its trying to take over and redefine an ISOC program, which I don't think the IETF can or should do. The ISOC program has a purpose, a history and at least from my perspective is working pretty well with the budget it has available. I'm not sure we can actually improve it much. agree, of course. at best we can provide input. but it really is an ISOC program. Jari