On 10/6/13 1:03 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > My goal is to publish it as an Informational RFC. It is an > explanation of principles and how they can be applied to productively > move IETF discussions forward. While there is no change to IETF > processes or any presumption that guidance from this document must be > followed, I have found the document very useful. It has been referred > to numerous times in IETF and IESG discussions. Consensus is hard and > many WG discussions have complex trade-offs and differing opinions. I > believe having this document become an RFC would help us apply the > useful principles even more widely than we are doing today. Glad to hear it - I think this is an enormously useful document. I'm wondering if wg chair training at an upcoming meeting can't be spent on it. Vancouver's too soon, but what about London? Melinda