Re: independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker

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The place to go is definitely not the page for a closed WG. How can that
be expected to track things that happened after the WG closed?

Since it's a BCP, you get the lot at http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp10
or http://www.rfc-editor.org/bcp/bcp10.txt.

In this particular case, you can also find it at
http://www.ietf.org/about/process-docs.html#anchor5

Regards
   Brian

On 02/10/2013 07:35, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> Not to detract from your point, Michael, but
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=nomcom&rfcs=on&sort= is pretty
> good.
> 
> Adrian
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Richardson
>> Sent: 01 October 2013 19:29
>> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx; tools-discuss@xxxxxxxx
>> Subject: independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker
>>
>>
>> This morning I had reason to re-read parts of RFC3777, and anything
>> that updated it.  I find the datatracker WG interface to really be
>> useful, and so I visited http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nomcom/
>> first.  I guess I could have instead gone to:
>>    http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3777
>>
>> but frankly, I'm often bad with numbers, especially when they repeat...
>> (3777? 3737? 3733?)
>>
>> While http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nomcom/ lists RFC3777, and
>> in that line, it lists the things that update it, it doesn't actually list
>> the other documents.  Thinking this was an error, I asked, and Cindy kindly
>> explained:
>>
>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nomcom/ lists the documents that were
>>> published by the NOMCOM Working Group.  The NOMCOM Working Group was
>>> open from 2002-2004, and only produced one RFC, which is RFC 3777.
>>>
>>> The RFCs that update 3777 were all produced by individuals (that is,
>>> outside of the NOMCOM Working Group), and so aren't listed individually
>>> on the NOMCOM Working Group documents page.
>> I wonder about this as a policy.
>>
>> Seeing the titles of those documents would have helped me find what I wanted
>> quickly (RFC5680 it was)...
>>
>> While I think that individual submissions that are not the result of
>> consensus do not belong on a WG page.  But, if the document was the result of
>> consensus, but did not occur in a WG because the WG had closed, I think that
>> perhaps it should appear there anyway.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sandelman Software Works
>>
> 
> 
> 




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