Not to detract from your point, Michael, but http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=nomcom&rfcs=on&sort= is pretty good. Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Michael Richardson > Sent: 01 October 2013 19:29 > To: ietf@xxxxxxxx; tools-discuss@xxxxxxxx > Subject: independant submissions that update standards track, and datatracker > > > This morning I had reason to re-read parts of RFC3777, and anything > that updated it. I find the datatracker WG interface to really be > useful, and so I visited http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nomcom/ > first. I guess I could have instead gone to: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3777 > > but frankly, I'm often bad with numbers, especially when they repeat... > (3777? 3737? 3733?) > > While http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nomcom/ lists RFC3777, and > in that line, it lists the things that update it, it doesn't actually list > the other documents. Thinking this was an error, I asked, and Cindy kindly > explained: > > >http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nomcom/ lists the documents that were > >published by the NOMCOM Working Group. The NOMCOM Working Group was > >open from 2002-2004, and only produced one RFC, which is RFC 3777. > > > >The RFCs that update 3777 were all produced by individuals (that is, > >outside of the NOMCOM Working Group), and so aren't listed individually > >on the NOMCOM Working Group documents page. > > I wonder about this as a policy. > > Seeing the titles of those documents would have helped me find what I wanted > quickly (RFC5680 it was)... > > While I think that individual submissions that are not the result of > consensus do not belong on a WG page. But, if the document was the result of > consensus, but did not occur in a WG because the WG had closed, I think that > perhaps it should appear there anyway. > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sandelman Software Works >