(2013/09/20 21:15), Jari Arkko wrote: > Josh, Stephen, > > It is important to understand the limitations of technology in this > discussion. We can improve communications security, and in some > cases reduce the amount information communicated. But we cannot > help a situation where you are communicating with a party that > you cannot entirely trust with technology alone. We can discourage people communicating with a party that are under full control of USG, which is why using cloud services should be discouraged, which is a technical issue. Masataka Ohta