1/ I believe that change would be factually incorrect 2/ I do not see that being factually correct about what happened says anything about the community opinion about any future IESG decision to change processes. Scott On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:48 PM, Pete Resnick <presnick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 9/17/13 11:27 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: >> I just posted the third version of the draft at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kolkman-proposed-standards-clarified-02 > > I would like to change "IESG" to "IETF" in five places: > > Section 1: > > "the IESG has evolved its review processes" > > Section 2: > > "IESG Reveiew of Proposed Standards" > "the IESG strengthened its review" > "last chance for the IESG to ensure the quality" > "cross-area technical review performed by the IESG" > > The IETF as a whole, through directorate reviews, area reviews, doctor reviews, *and* IESG reviews, has evolved, strengthened, ensured, etc., its reviews. > > Saying "the IESG" in these places implies precedent setting that I think would be bad. If the IETF capitulated to the IESG changing the rules on its own in the past, so be it, but I think it would be bad to indicate in a BCP that we think it's OK for the IESG to do so unilaterally. > > pr > > -- > Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> > Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478 >