On 9/6/13 4:47 AM, Adam Novak wrote: > On 09/05/2013 08:19 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> Tell me what the IETF could be doing that it isn't already doing. >> >> I'm not talking about what implementors and operators and users should >> be doing; still less about what legislators should or shouldn't be >> doing. I care about all those things, but the question here is what >> standards or informational outputs from the IETF are needed, in addition >> to what's already done or in the works. >> >> I don't intend that to be a rhetorical question. >> >> Brian > > One way to frustrate this sort of dragnet surveillance would be to > reduce centralization in the Internet's architecture. Right now, the > way the Internet works in practice for private individuals, all your > traffic goes up one pipe to your ISP. It's trivial to tap, since the > tapping can be centralized at the ISP end. And all our security is based in single points that are easy to abuse. /as