Re-, See inline. Cheers, Med De : Lorenzo Colitti [mailto:lorenzo@xxxxxxxxxx] On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, <david.binet@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok. So maybe you can put in the draft that this profile is a profile supported by several operators, but not necessarily endorsed by the IETF? [Med] The document followed the IETF procedures and was benefited from the inputs and review of IETF participants; and as such it is an IETF document. We included text to precise this is not a standard but an informational document. FWIW, we formally asked for guidance from the wg in Orlando (see http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-v6ops-9) but no comment was made at that time.
Sure, but the majority are mandatory, and don't forget that some of them are quite large (e.g., "implement RFC 6204"). Also, I believe it's not the IETF's role to produce vendor requirements documents. The considerations that the IETF deals with are primarily technical, and "we want this stuff from our vendors" is not a technical issue. [Med] With all due respect, you are keeping the same argument since the initial call for adoption and you seem ignore we are not in that stage. That’s not fair at all.
And how is it that you as an operator need all devices to meet requirement #28 (a cellphone MUST also be a CPE router)? How can you say that it's necessary to facilitate deployment? [Med] This is not for all mobile hosts but for those acting as mobile CPEs. The text is clear. There are plenty deployments relying on the mobile networks to provide broadband services. Device vendors people involved in discussion with operators in this field are quite aware of this model. You can check for instance: http://www.orange.tn/fixe-et-internet/pid382-la-flybox-orange.html
Remember, the IETF is supposed to be about rough consensus and running code. Can we wait until there is at least one implementation that does all this before we publish the document? [Med] There is running code for several features listed in this document. Because we don’t have “decent” implementations which meet the minimal set of requirements from operators, a group of these operators decided to carry on this effort to define a common profile. Saying that, it seems to me you want to impose specific rules only for this document!! |