Re: [dnsext] SPF isn't going to change, was Deprecating SPF

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Hector Santos <hsantos@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Hector Santos wrote:
>> Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>>> Putting a statement in an RFC does not mean that the world will
>>> automatically advance towards that particular end state.
>> 
>> Thats correct. No one is forced to support RFC 4408bis.  From my 
>> perspective, there are four basic major changes to BIS - all
>optional:
>> 
>>   1 - Add Authentication-Result: 5322.header.
>>   2 - Relax SPF HardFail Policy rejections to Accept-Mark operations.
>>   3 - If 2 is perform, then add code to separate user failed
>messages.
>>   4 - Remove any support for SPF type99 queries and publishing.
>> 
>> For our SPF implementation, we never did #4 for lack of
>infrastructure 
>> readiness but are ready to support once the the backbone is ready for
>
>> it. We will probably will do #1 for all non-HARDFAIL result but we
>won't 
>> do #2 because it will cause a high redesign cost with #3.  Not 
>> performing #3 would be a major security loophole is you begin to
>support 
>> #2. Until we are ready to do #3 and close that security loophole, #2 
>> won't happen.
>
>I should add:
>
>     5- Deprecate PTR by removing PTR publishing support
>
>We won't advocate this because for our small to mid size market, this 
>is the lowest cost setup for them - using a PTR.  For all our domains, 
>we use PTR as well.  No need to change it. This is one of those "Set 
>it and Forget it" SPF record setups. Using the PTR was the default 
>arrangement for most small/mid operations provided by most if not all 
>the SPF Web Wizards.  This was removed in Scott's popular SPF wizard 
>but not in other SPF wizards.  Note: The overhead concerns are passe 
>with the trend of SMTP receivers doing PTR lookups, thus any 
>transaction SPF validator will not contribute to any PTR network
>overhead.

That's not correct.  PTR is not removed from the protocol, so software support shouldn't change.

I don't run an SPF wizard. 

It's not just about overhead. 

Scott K




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