would this mandate wearing badges only in certain locations, e.g. over the left breast? /bill On 6August2013Tuesday, at 23:26, Riccardo Bernardini wrote: > Just thinking out aloud.... > > What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use > them...) right under the mic, so that it takes a picture of the badge > and shows it on the screen? Everyone (right?) in a meeting has a > badge wit his/her/its :) name and affiliation, so privacy concerns > are just comparable to those of wearing a badge. > > Of course, this is not applicable to jabber participants, in that case > you need a different solution. > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Yes, a group from my lab did this, using short-range RFID. (The range was about 1-2 inches.) It required a bit of a setup which made it hard to replicate at scale, but it worked reasonably well. >> >> Privacy concerns are an issue, but you'd have to be very close to the person to sense the card (and you can obviously leave it behind any time you'd want to) - it would be much more convenient to track people using BlueTooth or WiFi MAC addresses, if you'd be so inclined, or just use video cameras. Yes, you can use long-range directional antennas to increase your read range, but those would be rather hard to hide. As was mentioned, the hotel room cards use very much the same technology, and you can't really leave them behind when you leave the building. >> >> Henning >> >> On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dan York <york@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> On the topic of badge-sensing at the mic, I seem to recall that we had this working at an IETF sometime back in the RAI working groups. It was maybe 4 or 5 years ago and I think it may have been some student(s) under Henning Schulzrinne at Columbia... but I am not sure about that. I remember that when you went to the mic you put your badge up to this sensor and your name appeared in the jabber room. We used it in several of the RAI sessions at that IETF. Unfortunately I don't remember how well it worked or why it wasn't continued. There may be someone out there who can provide some insight. (And if it was Henning's students we can just drop him a note.) >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> -- >>> Dan York >>> york@xxxxxxxx >>> +1-802-735-1624 >>> skype:danyork >>> http://twitter.com/danyork >>> >>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "Paul Aitken" <paitken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> I've remotely participated in several IETFs. >>>> >>>> I find that the biggest problem with remote attendance is the lack of visual cues. I've come to realise just how important these are in a meeting. >>>> -are people paying attention, are they interested / confused / distracted / bored? >>>> >>>> Also there's no way for local attendees (in the WG room) to know that remote attendees are "at the mic" and whose turn it is to speak. >>>> >>>> There's been some discussion on the "87attendees" mailer about badge sensing at the mic - whether QR codes, NFC, or RFID. This could help remote attendees too. >>>> >>>> eg, see what they did with NFC + mic here: http://www.5thbar.me/blog/2012/09/14/nfc-enabled-badges-at-the-5thbar-mobile-marketing-forum/ >>>> >>>> P. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> iaoc-rps mailing list >>>> iaoc-rps@xxxxxxxx >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc-rps >>> >>