-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 07/28/2013 09:47 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 07/28/2013 09:10 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Melinda Shore wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 7/27/13 8:13 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>>>>> yup. i guess it is time for my quarterly suggestion to remove >>>>>> the projectors and screens. >>>>> >>>>> Then I guess it's time for my quarterly "I'd be good with that." >>>> >>>> As would I. >>> >>> Me too, as long as we get whiteboards or flip-charts in their stead. >> >> What about people at the back of the room who cannot see what you write >> on the whiteboard or flip-charts? (at least slides can be downloaded on >> laptop/tablet if too far from the projection screen) >> >> What about people following remotely? > > There are some technological solutions, like electronic whiteboards, or > cameras pointed at whiteboards/flipboards. Frame rate makes no difference. > > Work is done through conversation. If we use a presentation, the > conversation is scripted. I, the presenter, say stuff. You, the audience, > can only reply. When we collaborate to develop something at work, we hardly > ever do it with a presentation. Presentations work best for tutorial and > for showing proposals. > >> What about people who have difficulties understanding the speaker >> without some sort of context? > > With some speakers, context doesn't help. Slides help bad enunciation. > They usually don't help missing context. > >> What about being able to understand the problem that will be discussed >> before the session, so to cut on the "thinking out loud" on the >> microphone? > > That's what drafts are for. > >> Do you have a presentation during IETF 87? (I already checked that Randy, >> Keith and Melinda do not). I would be really interested to see how >> this could work. > > I have three. I don't get a flip-chart, so I do have slide-sets. There is > one 5-minute thing that I'm going to do with hand-waving and no slides, > but otherwise, I'm doing things the way that people expect them to be. I can not find your presentations in the agendas. Please tell me when they are and I'll rent a flip-chart. Thanks. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIbBAEBCAAGBQJR9NLNAAoJECnERZXWan7ELxgP+OsC2yZo717ZU0qQpP0FWl0e W1/PsAgFO3vShPlHy5VXWASovdagJB2fSgRonY6HGYDdTlRy4KF5p+wYs9mopweJ gDAO2q8DRe7CIQyhCgts6z93S3t3p1GWFU9wf5ajQWaOqK9PLwqnpcdILorP+zyt pJ09wQNabV1vhDB8cLtBmkzbZMldqIqmYbY1HFJ2s79weggmVEqW9XFkN4Xhmkl6 P261QGXNgrFlc+ayWAjyal3qKGwTZX7VLZ6JUwIjRYq5Bk0kpf7WubAEMp5N+JBS ocOwlPHG/zZeUUxsTDlZ0l3QnMWrc0ygc7n+I8T3DWlLbDJP8sofj39YXquifZG3 T4drnQlfuu0sTXUTsgx9HbGmj89u7g127vRx5mnjbhEpnsCjpSJH9G6Hnc7zFUTv VGI6u2oi9Ym5M+KfxWQmjR8GltVCqcF/6EvxuIxAN/hEosK5vwFBvC1hKtYkOOkl usZZKj4ICcRuSxM8KNZtjTX2X6lZATCSbjgCx4fjw+Zv79sgo7naRTU3A63xqHMl 6nnRGcjoEP69YGfYBR3lxRZM85QCpU42820FdhrMr4YY2MeOxsFKR2SFIEPeMpGl Lwbirh7rOZthMXWW69AmdJ5Z2IlL5AY0kbZw5soV4glNrv4bWRHIn5D4am9u8FHc EPL6kPP4WOUn5eAHkwE= =lrvp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----