On 09/06/2013 07:55, Melinda Shore wrote: > On 6/8/13 10:09 AM, SM wrote: >> As an off-topic comment, there are are alternative ways in making a >> decision; the best judgement of the most experienced or IETF Consensus. > > I don't think it's off-topic. Consensus (rough or otherwise) requires > that at some point people can live with decisions with > which they disagree. To the extent that we've seen recent misbehavior > on this list, it's from only one person who's rejecting the consensus > and rejecting the process. It's really annoying but I don't think > it's particularly disruptive. If it becomes disruptive, there's a > rarely-used hammer: the PR action. I agree. Whatever misbehaviour Melinda means hasn't troubled me; it must be a user or a thread that I filter to junk. Disagreement is fine as long as people in the end understand when they're in the rough and not in the consensus. There are times when this list annoys me too, but it is far from a failure IMHO. Brian