Dave Crocker <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 5/3/2013 7:29 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > >> Provide WG Chairs the monitoring tools they need to be proactive - Action >> Tracker, what do I need to do today data tracker views. Same for AD. >> >> Same for authors and their mentors, if any. > > The IETF already provides pretty good tools. They could always be > better, of course, but they almost certainly aren't essential. That much is probably true. > The issue with providing management assistance is to focus on managing > the work. That's an organizational orientation, not just a tracking > thing. It's about getting clarity of the work to be done and of getting > folks to do the work of contributing, writing, reviewing, and debating > in a timely manner, and achieving forward progress in a timely manner. That much is true. > Few working groups have enough detail to juggle to make this something > that hinges on the tools. That, alas, is not true. I subscribe to a number of WG lists where they find a issue tracker _quite_ essential to their work. And to most folks, the issue tracker output is more confusing than helpful: you're never quite sure which issue number something belongs under. The lists I subscribe to have as work items drafts where nothing happens until IETF-week deadlines (and sometimes not even then!). It seems _very_ likely that some automated tools to point out the inactivity would help... -- John Leslie <john@xxxxxxx>