-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5/2/13 4:03 PM, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > On 05/02/2013 02:40 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: >> As a non-native English speaker, but a language pedant >> nonetheless, I can empathize with people who put Discusses on >> badly written documents. > >> I suggest that we budget for a number of WG drafts per year (say, >> 20 IETF-wide) to go through professional, paid-for heavy-duty >> editing, with these goals in mind: > >> - Improve the readability of some of published documents, because >> if a document is *really* badly written, even the RFC Editor team >> will not save it. - Improve the level of review, because people >> can understand the document better if they don't need to dig >> through incorrect or "strange" language. - Allow more non-native >> speakers to participate in our primary activity (back to our >> "diversity" discussion). > >> I would suggest that the editing step should take place just >> before WG Last Call, upon a request by a WG chair and with AD >> approval. > > An alternative would be to have the RFC-editor doing copyediting of > I-Ds for a fee. Depending on the cost, I would use such service > for my I-Ds. That would be good for everybody: I would spend less > time trying to make my text legible and more making the protocol > described in it better. And because the document would have been > copy-edited by the same people that will publish the RFC, that's > less work at the end. Instead of imposing even more work on the RFC Editor team, I suggest that you find someone in the WG, in your company, in the IETF community (etc.) to help with the language issues. I did this recently with a document in one of the WGs where I'm active and it worked quite well (especially if the document is under source control and you can just send a patch). Peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRgvMHAAoJEOoGpJErxa2p1WkP/Ao11JgbfdPk1+r5psycC4yW hc9qCTZeJEuXHHEG5mFLXyuEugkL1LKDjH7TAHql3o28iRYi1P+0LnR4l4Eg27u8 Rfk8TrQ3pE0EHOiMhtX9b1G718iyQAR6bxjBJhR0Sc6f5Y2x4drqZQd4xwHggNCz uKp58+mrEizUBM3V6+JtCJAQj/mOv3HVbbSij8yWWYvJzuOP1nJ+rqEaI/0lBct5 rkWrefJogtxRHIrwALKmV+BYV99MyDzmm4kwZj+rDzqy/epq77FkqvZUms9EkLZW HYLWE9RL/onV+XOLbjkSIvjqjCgKdaS1FpMH6zqYidNN491bLAQacyI0QS9d6dGw 9AbDMf1uTxWcfWyB4LrwFFVyA8ZVCWO+1d5up+LSRgfGR/u0WhbyiaJqN0JKy10t 0yJ30+4rwsYjtzsOWy1Zggn8bD4uXXdyjbw8X6Ze69A8ChBlIqticIf4mEd12qSO E6k8SqtsoX17QmEU8oa7RwNaIbQ59txVju0NHEDlYreBKdHeRrki1SuK5+VrOJAg yTqzNkpJskgwFukSfLBiX446c4luXkQ4XoSWT3NdkqxIq2ikpXh3WU2p0WgDTM+G EreYmGTQXP9YV2Ieb+nMsj1pNbD0gB5a8CpXWLe859IIu2ga1uCcxo99LqPymNJB hmkU2s1OJ2xuR1/d5Anx =JEpp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----