-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 05/02/2013 02:40 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > As a non-native English speaker, but a language pedant nonetheless, I can > empathize with people who put Discusses on badly written documents. > > I suggest that we budget for a number of WG drafts per year (say, 20 > IETF-wide) to go through professional, paid-for heavy-duty editing, with > these goals in mind: > > - Improve the readability of some of published documents, because if a > document is *really* badly written, even the RFC Editor team will not save > it. - Improve the level of review, because people can understand the > document better if they don't need to dig through incorrect or "strange" > language. - Allow more non-native speakers to participate in our primary > activity (back to our "diversity" discussion). > > I would suggest that the editing step should take place just before WG > Last Call, upon a request by a WG chair and with AD approval. An alternative would be to have the RFC-editor doing copyediting of I-Ds for a fee. Depending on the cost, I would use such service for my I-Ds. That would be good for everybody: I would spend less time trying to make my text legible and more making the protocol described in it better. And because the document would have been copy-edited by the same people that will publish the RFC, that's less work at the end. > > Thanks, Yaron > >> Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 21:14:39 +0300 From: Hannes Tschofenig >> <hannes.tschofenig@xxxxxxx> To: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: >> Pete Resnick <presnick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, IETF list <ietf@xxxxxxxx> >> Subject: Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process Message-ID: >> <5182AD0F.4010204@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; >> format=flowed >> > [...] > >> >> PS: I just want to add that I still dislike DISCUSSes that make me >> re-write documents just because an English native speaker believes >> (probably rightfully so) that he knows how to write the text better (or >> at least in a different way). (hint, hint) >> > - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Email: marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRguKnAAoJECnERZXWan7ExYAP/jBHSXFuARqFZkcR9JWIRnfa qkMEVbZfZA15K7w+1nDAbEfxRWRI+Y2wIqyHegcG3EwS+2GbAY9C+/uNACs5iwSK 5VpSPvYYkkYvA4tniIkPewDyHhpVJlsG1GRN7WGGptKnPt+x2FLijO3ZU1UwEXVo 16vuKJu/tCPLxOhDHOUsNd5B16+ag3y0MwKVcCN+b11EKEmUUXhxGwYESaZipdzS da1TNcYIaaL2M2bpVEZM+hhnN+5w34hEikf6oXCZQPgH+ycHSL/acT0ufuV9FpE1 VWnGfmaWMngkSd7kvTlcbjUvVpiqx54re2JczdRvRqImjlzMl03tkPmEjniZncg5 mKDw3JX+jGGDySTFvK//Ra+1xQrpjjfHv1Cwslt2GFhytPTWnEIlakIihtNbU92w UQo0x/c4EGGxm8LYELF7bS5/bwvHUIu9xL7EA2FUKLF1u/LybwMeN9QpL3cbwXmy xdjFpqd0Zhih8NxF8gI8TUB7ydlJuDZe97+u6qLZXI2MVds5AnwuVbBi2+pJXWsf IEpRBp1lBLJJZ7TuLfKe7pWA5lLMElvJ+ZvY4Ie2j8ZIAQg0X9YyFF6J7vhpidBq T+3jIuiDyJDTNVFKgWIU2MzCmYC5HjzlKArE4cwoAFG1g/I8tU2D6mCMc5vFIBuE so0gffGYiRoVBiEtwCkz =RZa/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----