On 11/03/2013 02:47, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 2:45 PM -0800 3/10/13, Melinda Shore wrote: > >> And I'll go on record requesting that folks think >> pretty carefully before saying that including something >> other than white western guys means lowering standards. > > I don't think anyone has suggested that. Rather, the concern regards > how we get diversity in the I*. Increasing the pool (both in general > and among those now under-represented) is one way that has been suggested. We have to recognise a couple of awkward facts. One is that the people who participate in the IETF are to a large extent self-selected, or selected by social and economic pressures that we don't control. The other is that the same largely applies to those who are considered by the NomCom - yes, we (the community) can nominate anybody, but they have to agree, and their employers have to agree. That makes the problem harder to solve. We *should* try to solve it, which is why I was happy to sign the letter. Brian