On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Sam Crooks <sam.a.crooks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
not a Joke, Warren (and IETF).The petition process is the best I have found to put in unsolicited suggestions. The RFI process and public comments are the ways to put in solicited comments on some topic. There is not a good merit-based process to put suggestions and ideas into the government,I am trying to get an effective one created. The IETF Internet Draft process is the most effective I can think of for a grassroots process to take input and kill the Internet trolls who hijack such processes..I would appreciate your help, as well as the rest of the networking industry's help, in highlighting the issue to people in the federal government who can change it and put in an effective process.There is innovation going on in the government, and they are starting to put in place processes for innovation internally, but the government does not have an effective process for gathering ideas from the public and validating them based on merit. The Whitehouse's "We the People" website is a popularity contest which occasionally produces interesting things, like the recent "Build the Death Star" petition response from the Whitehouse.General Services Administration (GSA) is probably one of the most innovative government agencies in relation to IT. NIST and DHS NPPD and the DHS S&T directorates are very innovative as well, particularly in regards to cybersecurity and information assurance. State department as well.Casey Coleman of the GSA writes a great blog on the innovation occurring in the government, and is one of the most forward looking CIOs. http://gsablogs.gsa.gov/innovation/GSA is trying to innovate. Read this article: http://www.govexec.com/management/2013/03/hunting-great-ideas-should-be-everyday-affair-gsa-chief-says/61674/The Whitehouse is doing some interesting things as wellExposing government data sets Open Government initiative Data.govHelp me highlight a great process that works (at least considerably better than petitions) for collecting and vetting ideas from anybody on how and why something should be changed, and perhaps it will be implemented.The petition: http://wh.gov/G29pRegards,Sam CrooksOn Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
'm assuming this is a joke… but my subtlety filters are turned down, so who knows...
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"The Internet Draft process of the IETF works so effectively at filtering out Internet trolls because of the rigor and structure required for a proposal to be submitted."
--On Mar 5, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Sam Crooks <sam.a.crooks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> If you agree, please sign this petition. I'd appreciate your help in crossing the thresholds required for consideration.
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> Text of the Petition:
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> "Create a Request for Comment (RFC) process similar to the IETF's for taking in suggestions for innovation from public.
> I believe that the "We the People" initiative is a good idea, grassroots-level suggestions, but a less than ideal implementation for collection of innovation suggestions.
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> I propose that the Federal Government implement a process and structure similar to the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) Internet Draft and Request For Comment (RFC) processes and organization, which has proven to be *extremely* effective at filtering the Internet trolls, which have hijacked the "We the People" website and at collecting and acting on valid innovation proposals from anyone with an idea.
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> The Internet Draft process of the IETF works so effectively at filtering out Internet trolls because of the rigor and structure required for a proposal to be submitted.
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> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/create-request-comment-rfc-process-similar-ietfs-taking-suggestions-innovation-public/CqHFnjJc
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"Working the ICANN process is like being nibbled to death by ducks,
it takes forever, it doesn't make sense, and in the end we're still dead in the water."
-- Tom Galvin, VeriSign's vice president for government relations.