On 3/6/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote:
Hi Mike,
At 08:44 06-03-2013, Michael StJohns wrote:
I would suggest that it's probably time to re-convene the "how do we
select people" working group. Given the number of issues - recall,
IAOC, this, ineligible others - we've encountered lately, I don't
think just cutting and pasting a new RFC over 3777 to patch holes
makes sense.
There are some issues which may have to be addressed at some point.
Patching holes creates an incomprehensible BCP.
There are some interesting details in RFC 3777. I don't know whether
they have been exercised. Anyway, the question is about "how do they
select people". It has been mentioned previously that:
"One former chair pointed out that the NomCom moved pretty quickly
from a model where a random sample of the community selects
leadership based on personal experience to a model where the random
sample of the IETF is expected to survey a large and increasing
percentage of the total community in order to select leadership."
And:
"It is possible for either the Nomcom or a confirming body to wedge
the process in a way where it cannot proceed."
One item which is not mentioned is that public lynching of candidates
should never be encouraged.
Or the nomcom unless you want to insure that the pool of volunteers
shrinks in the the future.
The Nominating and Recall Committees have the latitude to get the work
done. They are supposed to get the work done. When the selection
process reaches a point where a working group slot is necessary to
poke at people who have accepted to work for free, is there something
wrong. When an impossible event turns out to be possible, is there
something wrong?
Regards,
-sm