On 15/11/2012 03:43, Melinda Shore wrote: ... > Right, I understand that (better than you might think - I live in > Alaska). But. I'm trying to understand the value in having people > attend one meeting. I've asked about that several times. There are people who have attended one, or a very small number, of meetings and who participate actively in IETF work. That's certainly the case for a few people in Australia and New Zealand, for example. I have a co-author on a current draft who attended IETF 83 in Paris, because he happens to live there and doesn't have business justification for the time and money for longer trips. I think people in this class do get a lot out of occasional participation - enough to encourage them to participate remotely. I've gone through phases of attending one meeting a year, and that's definitely enough to stay in touch. However, that is very different from meetings in unusual places *attracting* new participants who stay with us. Would we get a cohort of new active participants if we met in Anchorage? We'd reached 50 attendees from China at IETF 63 before we even started seriously negotiating the Beijing meeting. It seems to me that the causality is mainly in the opposite direction: participation causes meetings, not meetings cause participation. (IMHO, there is some value to the IETF in having one-off attendees who don't subsequently participate: they learn what the IETF is and hopefully tell others about it. This can't be a bad thing, but it's definitely secondary.) Brian