Andrew, On 10/25/12 9:52 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Oh, for heaven's sake. This is nothing to do with punishment. This is > a straightforward administrative problem. Turning this into an > opportunity to exercise a heavyweight and in fact punitive process > would be an injustice. If the IETF has wound itself into such > bureaucratic knots that we can't just make an exceptional decision in > exceptional circumstances, we are in much worse trouble than I thought. A And as of yet nobody has challenged the need to remove Marshall. We've just gone off the deep end on process. Yes, let's close the process problem as Brian said in due course. Let's also not rush through the changes for all the reasons that John Klensin wrote, plus another: I don't like the proposed approach, but that's for another message. Eliot