On 2012-10-23 01:59, Ian Hickson wrote:
...
Whether WebSockets is a good idea or not is besides the point. The point
is that the hybi group was not a pleasant experience for me. If I were to
be in a position to do Web Sockets again, I would decline the opportunity
to do it through the IETF. Doing it through the IETF made the work take a
year longer than it would have, made the protocol less secure (the WG
removed a number of defense-in-depth features), and made the spec a mess
> ...
And, as far as I can tell, fixed a security problem in the original
design (which caused some UA implementers to actually disable what they
were shipping at that time): <http://w2spconf.com/2011/papers/websocket.pdf>
(it's a mishmash of different editing styles). Plus, the group _still_
hasn't done multiplexing, which some of the vendors said was a prereq to
implementation, something which, prior to the IETF getting involved, was
only 3 to 6 months out on the roadmap.
...
Indeed, but then wasn't it you arguing *against* having it in the base
spec? (see
<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi/current/msg00239.html>)
Best regards, Julian