--On Friday, August 17, 2012 15:05 -0400 Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Russ has raised a couple of good points. I like John's > solution to one of them, and SM has proposed a good solution > to the other off list. I have the following changes in the > pending next version. > > I've slightly edited John's text, and Section 4, bullet 3, > paragraph 1 will now change to this: > > The nominating committee comprises a Chair, ten voting > volunteers, the immediate past nominating committee Chair > as an advisor, plus liaisons and possible additional > advisor(s) as described herein. Yes, much better. I realized after I sent the note that I intended to say "Section 4 of RFC 3777 as amended by subsequent documents including this one", but your text is more to the point. > SM suggests fixing the "liaisons" issue by changing the > definition of "sitting member" instead of by trying to explain > it in bullet 15.1. I agree that that's cleaner. > > The update to Section 2, paragraph 6 will change to this: > > sitting member: A person who is currently serving a term of > membership in, and having a standing to participate in > the decisions of, the IESG, the IAB, the IAOC, or the > ISOC Board of Trustees. Liaisons from other bodies are > not sitting members, by this definition. (For example, > an IESG liaison to the IAB is not a sitting member of > the IAB, though it may be a sitting member of the IESG.) This is still a tad ambiguous in principle (only). For example, it isn't clear whether, by that definition, the IAB Chair is a sitting member of the IESG (no vote, but excluded from the Nomcom as a sitting member of the IAB) or whether the IETF Chair is a sitting member of the IAB (votes, but excluded from the Nomcom anyway as a sitting member of the IESG). There are other such cases, but I believe all of them are, in practice, excluded by some other rule. >... So I think it is ok... and the marginal aesthetics are not worth worrying about. john