--On Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:20 -0400 Noel Chiappa <jnc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> > > > It is worth remembering that in the most critical part > of that period, > the IETF wasn't developing/pushing > TCP/IP in the marketplace but had > its face firmly > immersed in the KoolAid trough > > Ahem. There were quite a few of us in the IETF sphere who were > not at all fans of the OSI stack - and we worked very hard on > TCP/IP, and the deployment thereof, precisely to kill the OSI > stack. Noel, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, only that there was sufficient IETF consensus to keep an Area and, if I recall, several WGs going. john