> From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> > It is worth remembering that in the most critical part of that period, > the IETF wasn't developing/pushing TCP/IP in the marketplace but had > its face firmly immersed in the KoolAid trough Ahem. There were quite a few of us in the IETF sphere who were not at all fans of the OSI stack - and we worked very hard on TCP/IP, and the deployment thereof, precisely to kill the OSI stack. No disagreement with your other comments, just that one point. Noel