RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-marf-spf-reporting-08.txt> (SPF Authentication Failure Reporting using the Abuse Report Format) to Proposed Standard

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Kitterman
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-marf-spf-reporting-08.txt> (SPF
> Authentication Failure Reporting using the Abuse Report Format) to
> Proposed Standard
> 
> On Thursday, March 01, 2012 07:14:20 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> > > In Section 3:
> > >
> > >    "There exist cases in which a domain name owner employing [SPF] for
> > >     announcing sending practices may want to know when messages are
> > >     received via unauthorized routing."
> > >
> > > I suggest not using the term "domain name owner" to side-step the
> > > question of domain "ownership".
> >
> > Would "ADMD" and an informative reference to RFC5598 be more
> > appropriate?
> 
> I think it wouldn't.  As I read 5598, ADMD is the provider of services.

It's an MTA operator (RFC5598, 2.2.1), but basically the term is used to indicate a separate organization that might own one or more domains.  Google, for example, owns gmail.com and google.com (and googlers.com now), but that's all one ADMD.  This is how the term is used in several other documents.  It's obvious that this is the ADMD that will be the one setting SPF (or any) policy for mail use with respect to those domains, regardless of who actually handles the mail.

> Domain owners is the term used in RFC 4408 (see paragraph 1, introduction).
> I'm not sure what question of domain ownership we're trying to side
> step, but the term seems to me to be both literally correct and the
> same terminology already in use in related documents (also, I might
> add) a term no one has suggested should be changed in SPFbis).

I don't feel strongly about changing to ADMD except inasmuch as I suspect it might resolve the comment and is a more commonly used term.  I'm actually fine with "domain owner" because that's also an implicit property of the ADMD.

-MSK
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