Re: Last Call: <draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request-14.txt> (IANA Reserved IPv4 Prefix for Shared Address Space) to BCP

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Pete,

We seem to be agreeing violently.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 2012-02-02 11:33, Pete Resnick wrote:
> On 1/31/12 1:38 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> IMHO the text should make it
>> clear that this is the wrong way to use it and give the reasons
>> why - basically the same information as in the new text, but stated
>> exactly the other way round. For example
>>
>>       Shared Address Space is IPv4 address space designated for Service
>>       Provider use with the purpose of facilitating CGN deployment.
>>       Shared Address Space is not intended to be used as additional
>> [RFC1918]
>>       space, because either or both of the following issues might arise:
>>
>>       o  Shared Address Space could also be used on the Service
>> Provider side
>>          of the CPE, with overlapping subnet or host addresses.
>>
>>       o  Some CPE routers behave incorrectly when using the same
>> address block on
>>          both the internal and external interfaces.
>>    
> 
> Ah. I think we're in pretty good agreement. The -14 text uses the words
> "may be used as [RFC1918] private address space", and I agree with you
> that we don't want to use those words. We need to say that though it is
> similar to 1918 space, it has limitations. So I wouldn't object to the
> above text , but I think we do have to give some indication of the flip
> side. I want something that says that Shared Address Space can be used
> for other Service-Provider-type uses and are not limited to CGNs. They
> can be used on any network equipment willing to do address translation
> across interfaces which both use the Shared Address Space, just as CGNs
> do. That is, clarify throughout that this *isn't* just like 1918 space
> (it has limitations and can only be used in particular circumstances),
> but do describe what the conditions are under which it can be used.
> 
> In your above, I would even strengthen "is not intended to be used as
> additional [RFC1918] space" to "can not be use as [RFC1918] private
> address space", and then maybe add something about where it can be used.
> In the intro, I would change the second paragraph (and it's sub-bullets)
> to:
> 
>    Shared Address Space is similar to [RFC1918] private address space in
>    that it is not global routeable address space and can be used by
>    multiple pieces of equipment. However, Shared Address Space has
>    limitations in its use that the current [RFC1918] private address
>    space does not have. In particular, Shared Address Space can only be
>    used on routing equipment that is able to do address translation
>    across router interfaces when the addresses are identical on two
>    different interfaces.
> 
> Or something to that effect. Does that still capture that Shared Address
> Space is similar to 1918 space, it can be used for purposes other than
> CGN, but it can't be used everywhere 1918 addresses are used?
> 
> pr
> 
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