On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > SM wrote: > >> There are more than two types of participants: > > Not sure if I count as an "old boy" or not. Don't think I am as old as I feel. > > Anyway, I think it important to add to the categories of participants those who > *are* local participants, but who are not in the room where the meeting is > taking place. A number of people attempt to follow multiple parallel meetings > using jabber and/or headphones. For them, speaking participation usually > requires someone to channel over jabber, or a sprint between rooms. > > Such participants, like remote participants, would benefit from having the > projector streamed as well as audio. > >> In Section 2: >> >> "Bar BoFs at regular IETF meetings are not listed above >> because they mostly happen in places where remote participation can't >> be scheduled." >> >> Aren't Bar BoFs informal? There are also BoFs and "side-meetings" >> (draft-eggert-successful-bar-bof-06). > > Yes. Please do not make *any* provisions for remote participation at side > meetings. If the organisers want to arrange that sort of thing they can put > their mobile phone on the bar! > I go further : Any meeting that uses IETF RPS is an official IETF meeting subject to the NOTE WELL and (where appropriate) IETF rules for announcements and minute taking. Regards Marshall >> In Section 3.3: >> >> "This method of participation often works adequately, but there are >> many places where it fails." >> >> The problem is the audio delay. Even if the delay was a few seconds >> only, that would still happen as it is difficult to manage the >> in-room discussion and remote participation at the same time. > > I have found that the audio delay builds. Disconnecting and reconnecting to the > meeting catches you up. > >> In Section 4.1.2: >> >> "Remote attendees who are speaking over the >> audio must be visible to the local attendees." >> >> That's not a good idea if the remote participant is many time zones away. :-) > > It is also not a requirement and may be impractical on low b/w links. > Should I send a short video of me typing this email? > > Cheers, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf