RE: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request

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Folks,

Can anyone present empirical evidence that skype will break? I have heard claims in both directions.

                                                         Ron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Mark Andrews
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:50 PM
> To: Randy Bush
> Cc: IETF Disgust
> Subject: Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request
> 
> 
> In message <m2sjl644h3.wl%randy@xxxxxxx>, Randy Bush writes:
> > anyone who thinks this will not be used as 1918 space should share
> > what they are smoking.  the question is not if, but rather how many
> > milliseconds before it is.  that is the operational reality.
> 
> And what harm to others does that cause?  If a ISP is using this and
> the customer is using this rather than RFC 1918 space then they only
> have themselves to blame for operational problems it causes.
> 
> > and we should have a betting pool on how long before it is leaked
> > into a measure such as route-views.
> 
> And users would be advised to filter routes for it the same as they
> should be filtering routes for other space they are using.
> 
> > and all this is aside from the pnp, skype, ... and other breakage.
> > and, imiho, we can screw ipv4 life support.
> 
> skype etc. will learn.  This does prevent the breakage it just makes
> it more controlled.  What's the bet Skype has a patched released
> within a week of this being made available?
> 
> > this has become a contest of wills, not a technical discussion.
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