Folks, Can anyone present empirical evidence that skype will break? I have heard claims in both directions. Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Mark Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:50 PM > To: Randy Bush > Cc: IETF Disgust > Subject: Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request > > > In message <m2sjl644h3.wl%randy@xxxxxxx>, Randy Bush writes: > > anyone who thinks this will not be used as 1918 space should share > > what they are smoking. the question is not if, but rather how many > > milliseconds before it is. that is the operational reality. > > And what harm to others does that cause? If a ISP is using this and > the customer is using this rather than RFC 1918 space then they only > have themselves to blame for operational problems it causes. > > > and we should have a betting pool on how long before it is leaked > > into a measure such as route-views. > > And users would be advised to filter routes for it the same as they > should be filtering routes for other space they are using. > > > and all this is aside from the pnp, skype, ... and other breakage. > > and, imiho, we can screw ipv4 life support. > > skype etc. will learn. This does prevent the breakage it just makes > it more controlled. What's the bet Skype has a patched released > within a week of this being made available? > > > this has become a contest of wills, not a technical discussion. > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@xxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf