Folks, I think that our time would be used much more productively if we discussed whether to make the allocation or not. The proposed status of the document is a secondary issue. Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: iesg-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:iesg-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Paul Hoffman > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:47 AM > To: IESG IESG > Cc: IETF Discussion > Subject: Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request > > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Bradner, Scott wrote: > > > >> to be pedantic - a BCP stands for the best way we know how to do > something > >> it is not required that the process actually be in use before the > BCP is adopted > >> > >> as Mike O'Dell once said, if BCPs had to reflect what was actually > being done we > >> could never have a BCP defining good manners on the IETF mailing > list > >> > >> see RFC 2026 - it says > >> The BCP subseries of the RFC series is designed to be a way to > >> standardize practices and the results of community deliberations. > A > >> BCP document is subject to the same basic set of procedures as > >> standards track documents and thus is a vehicle by which the IETF > >> community can define and ratify the community's best current > thinking > >> on a statement of principle or on what is believed to be the best > way > >> to perform some operations or IETF process function. > >> > >> i.e, the IETF's "best current thinking" on the "best way" to do > something - not > >> 'describing the way something is done' > > You stopped the excerpt from 2026 too soon on both ends; "the > community's best current thinking on a statement of principle". Ron > already said that the community didn't agree on a clear "best current > thinking", and the document very clearly says that this is meant to be > a new allocation of addresses, not "a statement of principle". > > If the IESG wants to weasel around the actual words in RFC 2026, that's > fine: this wouldn't be the first time. However, there is also an > opportunity to be more honest and call it a Proposed Standard. > > --Paul Hoffman _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf