----- Original Message ----- From: "Melinda Shore" <melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx> To: <dcrocker@xxxxxxxx> Cc: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Requirement to go to meetings > On 10/22/11 10:26 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > So the question is how to move the center of gravity back to mailing lists? > > In all honesty I'd say that the largest source of this problem is > working group chairs, both for using meetings as deadline anchors > and for doing a really crappy job managing remote participation > during meetings (and thereby increasing the need to be there in > person). A few do an outstanding job, a few don't even try, and > most are somewhere in the middle. It may be worth doing a wg chairs > training session on this topic during an upcoming meeting. Yup, and not just managing remote participation. The mailing list work of the IETF consists, for many WGs, of three short bursts of activity each year, interspersed with periods of hibernation (or aestivation). Perhaps we should schedule six meetings each year; no need to attend them, it would just create six bursts of activity each year so we would get twice as much done, or get the same amount done in half the time. When W S Gilbert's song, "I've got a little list, they'd none of them be missed" is updated in modern performances, I would like to add to the list WG chairs who go to sleep between meetings:-) Tom Petch > > Melinda > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf