>>>>> "Dave" == Dave CROCKER <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Dave> On 10/21/2011 7:58 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: >> It's increasingly the case that if you want to do work at the >> IETF, you need to go to meetings. I'd have considerable >> reservations about asking for the kind of money you're >> suggesting. Dave> Melinda, Dave> I've changed the subject line because the point you raise is Dave> orthogonal to the main thread, but since you raise it, it's Dave> worth exploring a bit (since I happen to agree with your Dave> observation.) Dave, count this as another area where something you seem to find obvious is not obvious to me and kind of goes against my observations. I think that if you want to chair a working group or bring new work to the IETF you probably need to attend the face-to-face meetings. I haven't seen much of a change in the above. Nor have I personally witnessed a decline in the influence of people who attend remotely. In working groups I follow a number of key individuals attend the meetings less.. Some of them also spend less time on the IETF; they do seem to have lost influence, but others who still spend significant time do not seem to have lost influence. So, I'm curious what observations lead people to this conclusion. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf