RE: Requirement to go to meetings (was: Re: Anotherj RFP without IETF community input)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave CROCKER
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:27 PM
> To: Melinda Shore
> Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Requirement to go to meetings (was: Re: Anotherj RFP without IETF community input)
> 
> So the question is how to move the center of gravity back to mailing
> lists?

Tough call.  I completely understand the need and desire to be productive without requiring meetings, for all the financial, participation, and other reasons given.  But I also am very familiar with the fact that getting work done on lists can be a real challenge: People get sidetracked and can take days, weeks, or even months to answer something that's holding up a working group.

I suspect decisions get made in person because people show up, perhaps out of fear that they will have missed an opportunity to be heard or influence a key decision.  There's a feeling that meetings produce action items, where in the list environment action items get assigned when consensus gets around to warranting it.

If you're sitting on a mailing list and someone asks you to provide a document review by some date and you say nothing, there's no indication of whether or not you even got the request.  If you're sitting in a meeting room and someone asks you to provide a document review by some date, that person is likely to get an answer from you right away.

In short: Meetings don't stall, but lists do.  And I think, therefore, that many people find the meetings important, perhaps enough so that they save all their WG energy for the meetings.

I don't think it's best for maximum participation, especially given the costs of the meetings as per discussion in the other thread, but I understand why it is that way.

-MSK
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