Luca, and all,
I concur with Andy's opinion that the reference to RFC 4447 must become Normative (this will not delay the publication is too often the case:-).
As for Informational vs. Historical, I think that Informational is more appropriate because, AFAIK, the technique defined in draft-kompella is not just a documenting an existing solution - it describes is THE ONLY deployed solution for the problem. (If this statement happens to be factually incorrect, I would be happy to learn about the deployed alternatives.)
Regards,
Sasha
> -----Original Message-----
> From: l2vpn-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luca
> Martini
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:24 PM
> To: Andrew G. Malis
> Cc: l2vpn@xxxxxxxx; pwe3; IETF Discussion
> Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn-07.txt> (Layer 2 Virtual
> Private Networks Using BGP for Auto-discovery and Signaling) to Informational
> RFC
>
> I concurr with Andy.
> Given that the WG has made a decision on which control plane technology
> is the standard track technology we should have a statement in this
> document pointing to the standard track rfc4447 so it is clear to anyone
> reading the document.
> In the same way we published the draft-martini documents as historical
> ee should publish this document as historical rfc, to document existing
> implementations.
>
> Luca
>
> On 09/01/11 05:42, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> > Speaking as an individual, the solution in this draft has been has
> > been operationally deployed in a number of service provider networks,
> > and it should be documented in an informational RFC.
> >
> > Speaking as PWE3 co-chair, I would be happier if this draft required
> > that routers that implement this solution also implement RFC 4447,
> > that RFC 4447 be configured as the default mechanism for pseudowire
> > signaling, and that RFC 4447 was moved from an informational to a
> > normative reference. In practice, I know that routers that implement
> > this also do implement RFC 4447, but I would like to see it in the RFC
> > as well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> >
> > Subject: Last Call: (Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Using BGP
> > for Auto-discovery and Signaling) to Informational RFC
> > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:50:05 -0700
> > From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx>
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> >
> >
> >
> > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
> > the following document:
> > - 'Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Using BGP for Auto-discovery and
> > Signaling'
> > <draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn-07.txt> as an Informational RFC
> >
> > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
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> > Abstract
> >
> >
> > Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks (L2VPNs) based on Frame Relay or ATM
> > circuits have been around a long time; more recently, Ethernet VPNs,
> > including Virtual Private LAN Service, have become popular.
> > Traditional L2VPNs often required a separate Service Provider
> > infrastructure for each type, and yet another for the Internet and IP
> > VPNs. In addition, L2VPN provisioning was cumbersome. This document
> > presents a new approach to the problem of offering L2VPN services
> > where the L2VPN customer's experience is virtually identical to that
> > offered by traditional Layer 2 VPNs, but such that a Service Provider
> > can maintain a single network for L2VPNs, IP VPNs and the Internet,
> > as well as a common provisioning methodology for all services.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The file can be obtained via
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn/
> >
> > IESG discussion can be tracked via
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn/
> >
> >
> > The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
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> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1149/
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