Eric, Thomas may well have a different answer but, speaking personally, if we have a choice between a nominal three-step process that is actually one-step with a few exceptions and a nominal two-step process that is actually one-step with a few exceptions, I think we would be much better off with a one-step process. Ideally, we should be able to annotate that one-step process with how mature we think a spec is, but the "facing reality" situation is that, unless we can change how we and the marketplace do things, we have a one-step process today and trying to cut things from unused-three to unused-two accomplishes nothing other than giving us an extra opportunity to confirm our failure to be able to use a multi-step process. I'd find a change to one-step a lot easier to support than a change to two-step, if only because moving to one-step is not only closer to present reality but also would give us a starting part for new work to express maturity (if we still care). Two-step neither gets us to present reality nor gets us away from the idea that the multistep model actually expresses maturity and other useful information. john --On Saturday, September 10, 2011 21:26 -0400 Eric Burger <eburger-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So should we move to a one-step process? > > On Sep 9, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Thomas Narten wrote: > >> Advancing a spec is done for marketing, political, process >> and other reasons. E.g., to give a spec more legitimacy. Or >> to more clear replace an older one. Nothing wrong with that. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf