this is better than the last version but 1/ I still see no reason to think that this change will cause any significant change in the percent of Proposed Standards that move up the (shorter) standards track since the proposal does nothing to change the underlying reasons that people do not expend the effort needed to advance documents 2/ one of the big issues with the PS->DS step is understanding what documentation is needed to show that there are the interoperable implementations and to list the unused features - it would help a lot to provide some guidance (which I did not do in 2026 - as I have been reminded a number of times :-) ) as to just what process is to be followed could be a spread sheet showing features & implementations an assertion by the person proposing the advancement that the requirements have been met or something in between Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf